Monday, January 15, 2007

Ta'anis 4

Taanis 4a (2nd line v'amar) - 4b (last word)

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SUMMARY OF THE DAF

Ta'anis 4

Rava says that Rabbinical students are like seeds under the ground because when they start to grow they shoot up.
Rava says that a Rabbinical student who gets mad is being burnt by the 'fire of Torah'
Rav Ashi says any student who isn't as hard as iron is not a talmid chacham
Ravina adds that nevertheless a person should train themselves to be nice
3 people who asked innapropriately, 2 were answered appropriately and 1 inappropriately
Eliezer - (appropriately) wife for Yitzchak (Rivka)
Shaul - (appropriately) son-in-law (David)
Yiftach - (inappropriately) sacrific (daughter)
abhorrence of child sacrifice
also k'neset yisrael was answered appropriately
asking for rain and mentioning rain have two separate times and halachot.
Two opinions as to what Rabbi Yehuda holds (from beginning of Pesach or end of Pesach)
We start asking for rain: Tanna Kamma 3rd Cheshvan, Rabban Gamliel 7th Cheshvan
Distinction between Bavel and Eretz Yisrael/ distinction between time of Beis Hamikdash and after Beis Hamikdash
When do we start mentioning rain in chutz la'aretz when there is 2nd day yomtov?

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